Newly leaked Star Wars 9 concept art finds Kylo Ren fighting Darth Vader. Darth Vader – 33 per cent (3422) The Emperor – 18 per cent (1897) Grand Admiral Thrawn – 6 per cent (636) Darth Maul – 6 per cent (632) Boba Fett – 6 per cent (631) General Grievous – 4 per cent (458) Greedo – 4 per cent (399) Moff Gideon – 4 per cent (381) Kylo Ren – 3 per cent (354) Grand Moff Tarkin – 3 per cent (330) Jan 31, 2017 - Explore Tony Gaulding's board "Kylo Ren" on Pinterest. Maul was pretending to be weak and feeble when he met Ezra so that he can gain his trust because Ezra a child, Maul dropped the act when Ezra re-introduced Maul to Kanan and Ahsoka, who evidently weren't naive enough to fall for Maul's self victimisation act. See more ideas about star wars art, star wars fans, star wars universe. The only part of this I don't agree with is Maul didn't nearly defeat two Jedi 2v1, the only reason he was able to kill Quigon was because Obi-Wan got separated. Round 1: Maul destroys Kylo. Both Darth Vader and Kylo Ren have impressive outfits, although Darth Vader's look certainly takes the cake. Would you like to react to this message? Still, the Knights' true loyalty did not belong to this master, as their true leader was the Sith Lord Darth Sidious. But the new leak presents a … [4] He is also the father of Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia Organa, grandfather of Kylo Ren, and secret husband of Padmé Amidala. Of course, what is more likely is that Maul, having shown considerably acrobatic abilities augmented with the force, flips over the Knights' heads, lands on the other side, and the two Sith cut through the Knights from each end. Kylo Ren has no applicable combat feats.So the real answer is we have no clue, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Maul is something more than Ren wishes he could be. R1) Peak Maul is a much better fighter than Kylo when it comes to bladework, footwork, or mobility. Kylo Ren and Darth Maul. The ONLY feat he has that's even remotely worth talking about is stopping a blaster bolt midair. You are indeed where you belong. Ren from freezing rey in their fight? R3) As said before Maul will stop Kylo in most scenarios. About Round 3 - I agree with you. Kylo Ren is a young but powerful Force User who was introduced in "Star Wars: The Force Awakens". But you can't use those "if's" to say that "IF Kylo was full strength and bloodlusted he would've stomped". Maul 9/10. Their chance is for Kylo to throw Maul off balance with large strikes or the force allowing Qui-Gon to take out Maul. Maul isn't superior to Ahsoka while holding back, that's complete nonsense. Lightsabers and Blasters Only. Whilst they were wearing armour.) The machine components of Vader's suit add an extra element of fear, and his iconic mask is the epitome of menacing headgear. The battle between the two users on the dark side that never reached their full potential. Round 3: Darth Maul backed by Count Dooku vs Kylo Ren and 6 Knights of Ren. By Shaun Kitchener PUBLISHED: 08:50, Tue, Jun 11, 2019 So in that sense, this feat is kinda iffy when you're talking about using it to demonstrate his power. Everything else that he's done has been done multiple times by other characters across all the movies and material, and most of those times they accomplished those feats to a higher degree than he did in the movie (e.g. Maul already beat Qui-gon with better backup in Obi-wan, so i think Maul wins this round as well. Last week, some artwork that was supposedly from Colin Trevorrow's first version of the movie found its way online. Re: Kylo Ren vs Darth Maul - Force Battle. Dooku could solo, Maul is overkill. Kylo: supreme leader of the First Order 27% . Definitely Kylo. Spoof and original music created by F.Sudol, thanks for watching. Honestly I think Ren will be surprised and taken off guard by just the pure hatred of Maul. There have also been leaks describing Kylo Ren having a vision of Darth Vader and Anakin caught in a moment between the two incarnations. What's to stop anakin from choking obi-wan? It's a fair point: Kylo likely wasn't fighting at his peak during the aforementioned fights. One of the things Kylo Ren lacks that Qui-Gon Jinn possessed was a mastery over his emotions. Yeah, we've all heard the arguments about how Chewie's shot really incapped him for the fight, and how he wasn't intent on killing Rey. The Knights of Ren would likely be trained in a more generalized fighting style, taking into account blaster fire etc. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. KyleKG 3 years ago #21. We also know, based upon his interactions with Snoke, that he has not begun his training as a Sith. Darth Vader has a major presence in the latest look at Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.It's no secret that Kylo Ren is a big fan of his grandfather. Sorry if this battle seems a bit off, its my first. Ren has no real combat feats to speak of, apart from the fights with Rey and Finn. We don't know if Ren's paralysis ability would affect Maul, but if it does, and if Ren goes for that move (something we have no reason to believe he'd do), he'd have a chance to kill Maul. This means its Darth Maul and Han Solo Vs Kylo Ren and Qui-Gon-Jinn. 1 Introduction 2 Darth Maul 3 Kylo Ren 4 Intermission 5 DEATH BATTLE! Dooku thrashed Anakin and Obi-wan, at the same time, and stood toe-to-toe with Yodu, which is arguably a greater feat. and emotionally unbalanced (he just killed his dad). RP_Grump posted... Zack_Attackv1 posted... lol at this even being a question. That being said, since we've got nothing else to go by, we can't assume that he's an extremely talented duelist, since there's just nothing to support the idea. - Page 5. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Savage Opress 4 Kylo Ren 5 DEATH BATTLE 6 Conclusion Star Wars vs. Star Wars! He's incredibly lucky, and a very good shot, but blasters aren't usually much use against trained lightsaber duelists. Contrast this with Maul, who has been trained by Sidious for a very long time, and is able to fight a Jedi Master and a highly skilled Padawan, at once, in a duel that resulted in the death of one and nearly the death of the other. Press J to jump to the feed. Since this is a pretty significant combat feat in favor of Maul, and Ren doesn't have any combat feats to speak of, Maul likely wins 9/10. This means the battle is reduced to a single Knight of Ren facing off against a single member of Team Mooku until one combatant is killed and then is replaced by an ally, until only one team remains. Thus, we have a man who will almost certainly kill Kylo Ren one on one, and a man who is more skilled than the former, against Kylo Ren and six of his (likely less skilled) comrades. Kylo Ren is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise. Additionally, Kenobi is of the Light Side and Maul is of the Dark side, much like Rey and Kylo Ren. Though he supposedly died on Naboo at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi, he resurfaced years later, having survived through his sheer hatred. Ren obviously has issues killing his father, and it takes considerable effort for him to do so, so I doubt he'd be able to bring himself to do so before Maul kills his partner. Thus, it's likely that, even if "master of the Knights of Ren" refers to a position of command and in no way refers to skill, that Kylo only came to this position, or only holds it, through power. As Yoda reluctantly judges the match, Darth Maul and Kylo Ren draw sabers to the death in this parody VS battle I created using Anime Studio Pro 8. However, Maul has bounced back from worse. BUT the thing is we don't know if this is really a feat at all because the only thing that makes it stand out is that nobody else has done it. Late to the party but let's get one thing straight: Kylo Ren, as cool a character as he is, is absolute shite for this sub because he's weak as shit and has close to zero feats. Other than that, Kylo has only taken part in one duel with another Force sensitive so far and he got shat on. Thus, we're left with minimal combat feats for him, no real combat feats at his peak, and a lack of finished training that doesn't exactly give the impression that he would be too skilled. Kylo Ren and Darth Vader are two of the most powerful villains in the Star Wars universe, but who would win in a fight? Kylo can't even beat a novice Force user. So Maul was able to defeat one Jedi in 1v1 combat, still impressive however he was bested, again, in 1v1 combat by Obi-Wan. That being said Obi-Wan got separated due to Maul kicking him off a ledge or something, if I recall. That argument has no basis in fact, nor reality. The entire idea that there's a big gap between Ahsoka and Maul in the form of this "serious Maul > holding back Maul who's pretending to look feeble > Ahsoka" argument completely self destructs because Maul had a 2 minute fight with Ahsoka, and during that fight he is furious and frustrated with Ahsoka for getting in his way, and yet their fight resulted in a stalemate, not that I think Maul would've lost had the fight continued, but it's illogical for Maul to deliberately waste time holding back his strength in his fight with Ahsoka because he is clearly hell bent to get to the Sith holocron, corrupt Ezra into becoming his apprentice, exact revenge on. Ren probably won't be able to coordinate well with Qui-Gon anyway, so team 1 takes it. Jedi create their lightsabers as a later part of their training, but Ren's lightsaber is specifically something crude and almost homemade, which implies that it was not created as part of his Jedi training but rather done on his own. Round 2: Each side has to fight alongside the last person the opponent killed. Ok, here we go! User Info: KyleKG. I hate her character but this is just stupid. A new theory from the latest Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker trailer says Kylo Ren is searching for the Wayfinder on Darth Vader's planet of Mustafar. Maul is superior to Ahsoka (while holding back, because he's trying to look feeble and weak), so he's logically close to Vader. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 10/10. Rebels era Darth Maul. I doubt that team will work together as well as the original, and neither can win on their own. The strongest leads. As I already said their coordination is likely to be weak so I'll give Maul-Han 7/10. The son of Mother Talzin, he was trained by Sidious as a Sith assassin and became an incredibly skilled duelist. Feeling let-down by his father, Han Solo, he was seduced to the Dark Side from the evil Supreme Leader Snoke. Kylo lost to Rey who had never even used a lightsaber. On Star Wars, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Who would win? Maul 10/10. Darth Vader easily broke into Leia's mind). If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. SFM Kylo Ren Starwars raw animation Test1. Now, Maul is being joined by a man who is likely, at least as far as the movies are concerned, a much better combatant than he himself is. He could've died in an extremely close fight. Maul 9/10, Round 3: If Kylo is the strongest of the Knights of ren then i think Maul and Dooku take this as well. No Force oriented abilities except for utility purposes such as retrieving lightsabers. With only the one canon example, it's not a sure thing that a dyad would always be composed of a Light Side and a Dark Side, but with the prequel films making the necessity of balance in the Force a central theme, it's a compelling assumption. Kylo Ren Vs Darth Vader Vs Darth Maul + Gameplay Skill Tree | Disney Infinity 3.0 Toy Box Brawls #9. and he lost a force duel with Rae in the chair when she has never used it before. The combatants are Darth Maul as he was pre-slicing and Kylo Ren in peak condition. But the point stands as far as feats go, defensively he can survive multiple opponents however this does not mean he can defeat them. He was incredibly wounded (shot by a weapon that not only 1 hit killed people throughout the entire film, but also sent them flying away. As such, only the master could command the six elite warriors known as Ap'lek, Cardo, Kuruk, Trudgen, Ushar, and Vicrul. This is a Force only battle - no other weaponry involved. Kylo isn't beating anyone of note, his only duel showing was terrible so he's tough to gauge. "Darth" is a name used by the Sith. Dooku was considered one the top duelists in the Jedi order before he left and Maul is probably very close to his skills. Maul was a Dathomirian Zabrak and the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Darth Maul vs Kylo Ren Spoof. May 23, 2016 4:55AM edited May 2016. Here's what we know about the Knights of Ren: They are involved in the deaths of Luke's students, and Kylo Ren is the "master of the Knights of Ren". Since his training was not complete, he probably doesn't have the experience required to block blaster shots while maintaining his stance. Assuming Ren's stasis would work on full strength maul kind of shits on all the lore. One is the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the other of Snoke. Zenwolf. I don't see any way Ren can win even one of these battles. Now let's talk about that blaster feat. Of course, The Rise of Skywalker would also include another iconic Sith in the form of Palpatine. Check out our MERCHANDISE: https://viralstyle.com/store/ViralKiller/shopKylo Ren vs Darth MaulWho would win? Maul took on two jedi by himself and nearly won. I'd say about 7/10 for Maul, since he and Qui-gon are fairly evenly matched, though Maul is still the more skilled fighter. Though he fell in battle against Darth Maul, he would have certainly been a match for Kylo Ren. He did 3 simultaneously while drugged in TCW, taking out Kylo then 2, then 2, then 2 shouldn't be hard. Even if it doesn't explicitly refer to skill, the Sith, who the knights presumably are emulating, are an organization based on strength. Share. I don't see this happening, either because Ren would never really do it and because he's never used it against a trained force user, but it is a possibility, so I'll give Ren that 1/10. It also helps that Dooku's form (II) specialises in lightsaber vs lightsaber fights. Kylo Ren vs. Darth Maul?" Maul, the Dathomirian Zabrak male who would become the feared Darth Maul, was born on Dathomir to Kycina, a Human Nightsister of Mother Talzin's coven and a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception. Maul 10/10. Every side has access to their strongest abilities. Now, this last line either refers to the fact that they are subservient to him, that he is more powerful or skilled that they are, or a combination of the two. The Sith were a particular line of Dark Jedi which have brought in other sources of knowledge of the Dark Side of the Force into their collective understanding of the Force. With him out we have a rematch between Maul and Qui-Gon where Kylo replaced Obi-wan. All canon feats allowed. By Thomas West Aug 31, 2020. Numbers count for something, of course, so maybe the Knights of Ren could give them a run for their money. We dont see the Knights of ren really do anything so its hard to judge but Dooku took on Anakin and Obi-wan and fought Yoda to a draw so i really dont see Maul and Dooku both losing. Round 2: Even if Kylo killed Han right at the start of the battle, that means that its Kylo and Qui-gon vs Maul. Level One. 5:15. Round 2: Han's a nonfactor, and Qui-Gon's already lost to Maul before. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. Rise of Skywalker Kylo Ren. Yeah I know he was hit by a bolt from Chewbacca before the fight with Rey and Finn (which is pretty much the only source of his combat feats as of now,) AND I'm aware that it was able to knock stormtroopers off their feet, but he hasn't really demonstrated much prowess with a lightsaber anyway. In The Clone Wars (newer show) he was shown to be alive after having his lower half cut off by Obi-Wan, which is pretty damn hardcore. And rather than focusing on Maul, the main antagonist of the trilogy was Adam Driver's Kylo Ren. I mean, you can lose a fight and still be extremely close, that's how Star Wars works. Stuwart. Adalinerigg28. With the threat of Maul splitting his attention from Han, Han might actually be able to hit Kylo. Two of my favorite Dark Side characters and both currently pretty useless. 5:28. Even if Han isn't part of the equation, Maul has taken on Qui-gon and another duelist with much, much better combat feats before at the same time and nearly came out on top, so changing Qui-gon's partner to someone like Kylo, who has many, many less impressive combat feats, and you've got a win for Maul/Han. Originally a Jedi prophesied to bring balance to the Force, he falls to the dark side of the Force and serves the evil Galactic Empire at the right hand of his Sith master, Palpatine (also known as Darth Sidious). Star Wars A Galaxy Far, Far Away Stage Show - with Darth Vader, Kylo Ren, and Darth Maul (Andersonwarwick25. Both are extremely slow and weak. Maul and Dooku take this 10/10. Share Share Tweet Email. Of course, he was heavily injured and emotionally troubled, blah blah blah, we've all read this argument before. Round 2. This. lets start! Larger-scale feats before his prime and ragdolling multiple Jedi at once (granted, Luke's students don't appear to have been the most powerful of Jedi) should put him well above Maul's level. Maul already beat Qui-gon with better backup in Obi-wan, so i think Maul wins this round as well. 137 posts Member. Round 1. Filoni just said he would've died. During his time among the Jedi, he was considered one of the greatest duelists of his era. R2) Kylo opens by freezing Han. Then in The Last Jedi, Kylo Ren tells Rey of her parents, ... And, according to a leaked image from a Star Wars guide posted on Reddit, Rey might not have been from Jakku originally at all. You can't just say that since he hasn't done it on screen, a force user wouldn't be able to stop a force power. Round 3: If Kylo is the strongest of the Knights of ren then i think Maul … It's pretty cool that he could stop a fast moving projectile midair with relative ease. "Nobody else has done it" isn't the same as "Nobody else can do it". It could just be the case that we haven't seen it done in previous content, or that nobody thought to do it, but they actually could if they wanted. Straight up light sabers I'd give it to maul, but kylo ten has the ability to put someone in stasis, so if he abused that I don't really see what maul could do to counter that. Thus, it can be assumed that Kylo Ren is the most powerful or most skilled of the Knights of Ren. Solo's contribution here is debatable. That's all speculation. That said, he's not that much of a Force wielder in battle. He was going to die... with no context whatsoever. With Powerful Connections to the Force and taught by Powerful Wielders of the Dark Side, Which of these two Dark Apprentices shall be victorious?! Fight is to the death, on neutral ground, starting distance of 20 yards. From the limited amount we see Kylo fight, it doesn't appear that he has specialized training in these forms (he might be using VII which looks like Mace Windu, but I am not sure of this). Kylo's only advantage is freezing Maul with the force and that could be hard to pull off, nigh impossible mid fight. Please comment and subscribe if you want to see more. 0. An enclave of masked warriors, the Knights of Ren served the will of a leader, referred to as master or boss, who had sole authority over them. Maul 9/10. About Round 2 - Blocking blaster bolts with a lightsaber in a combat situation requires quite a bit of training and a specific form (III or V, which look like Obi Wan and Vader respectively). 6 Conclusion Wiz: Star Wars is a very popular series of movies and has lots of great heroes...and Villians. Given that Snoke referred to Kylo in this capacity when speaking of how difficult a trial he would face, I'm inclined to believe that it refers to skill. But some of the more "Newer" ones are very popular as well. Kylo Ren tore down a Jedi temple using just the force, fought and beat 3 of Luke’s best students using Just the force even though at this point Luke had way more knowledge of the force learning from Lor San Tekka. Round 1: Lightsaber Fight with full access to the armada of options the dark side of the force has to offer. By birth, Maul was a Nightbrother; a clan of male Zabraks from Dathomir who served as warriors and slaves of the dominant Nightsisters. Savage Opress VS Kylo Ren is a What-If? Discussion board for Star Wars versus matchups and related topics. A NEW Star Wars fan theory suggests a slightly complicated dynamic between Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren. Kylo Ren vs. Darth Maul? Maul and Dooku 8/10, Dooku went toe to toe with Yoda, he regularly took on Obi wan AND Anakin and was a huge threat to them 2v1, he'd probably solo Kylo and the knights, Kylo lost to Rey who had never even used a lightsaber. Qui-gon from force pushing maul into the pit? Comment. Then beat the knight of Ren singlehanded even though they killed Jedi before. Round 3. Team 1 wins, but the atmosphere is ruined by the inappropriate usage of Duel of Fates (it's more of a lolstomp than an epic battle.). Like Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Count Dooku, Boba Fett and many, many more. Maul 10/10, Round 2: Even if Kylo killed Han right at the start of the battle, that means that its Kylo and Qui-gon vs Maul. They're on a walkway (not a bridge, mind you, but a walkway, which is generally only wide enough for one person) over a bottomless pit. So he did separate and eliminate them which I'm assuming he planned, because he most likely realized he couldn't win 2v1. 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